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Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other options? - 11/15/2008 11:01:29 PM   
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Here's the deal. I was a stay at home mom for two and a half years and then we lost a big chunk of our income and I had to go back to work full time. It has the potential to be a great job. I'm the laboratory supervisor at a fairly large Internal Medicine office (15 doctors and a few nurse practitioners). The lab staff is great and we work well together.

The problem is that when I interviewed for the job, the site manager made it sound like I'd be able to work in the open/close rotation with the rest of the lab staff. That would mean two or three days per week I'd get off at 4:00. This hasn't been the case. The site manager (Joanne) has me closing every night. I don't get to leave work until between 5:45 and 6:15 every night. That only gives me about 2 hours a day with my very young daughter...that is the problem.

I've asked Joanne to allow me to transfer within the company to a second shift job and she has refused both times I have asked. The second time I asked was in a letter explaining just how much working these hours and not seeing my child was sucking the life out of me. I told her I am so personally and professionally unfulfilled because of needing more time with my daughter and husband that my family is suffering and my job as well. I'm an absolute mess.

She replied to my letter with an email that started out something like "we all have family problems..." blah, blah, blah.

Her excuse for not letting me transfer is that it is company policy not to allow a transfer if an employee has been in their position for less than a year unless their position is filled first. Okay, I get that and I'm recruiting for my job like mad.

What I can't get behind is the fact that this lady who doesn't want to break company policy actually broke it to hire me in the first place. This company says that no one will be allowed to rehire after quitting the company twice. I have done that. I quit once just to get a better paying job (before this company started paying their employees competitively) and I came back and quit again to stay home with my daughter. We discussed it during my interview. She was well aware of the fact that she was breaking company policy to get me in the door and now she's found the moral fortitude to not break company policy and let me pull my family back together.

Any suggestions?

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/16/2008 9:44:58 AM   
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If you have tried to speak and reason with her, is there anyone higher up you could approach?
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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/16/2008 1:57:07 PM   
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She's as high as the chain of command goes within our office, but there are people at the central office (over all offices within the parent company) who I could try I suppose.

This lady has a lot of influence and I'm very doubtful that anybody would consider going against her decision. I am willing to give it a try though.

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/16/2008 2:02:01 PM   
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Sounds like she doesn't want to transfer you to the second shift because it would mean more work for her. If she broke company policy to re-hire you then she recognizes your work as invaluable. If you transfer to another shift then the work...you closing every day...would land back on her until she finds a replacement who would do the same level of work. In other words...I think her inability to work with you on the transfer is self serving. I'll keep you in my prayers.

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/16/2008 4:01:06 PM   
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I'll be praying for wisdom and direction for you. We miss you. But more importantly, I know how hard this has been on you. Give GB a hug for me.

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/16/2008 6:19:52 PM   
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She's as high as the chain of command goes within our office, but there are people at the central office (over all offices within the parent company) who I could try I suppose.

This lady has a lot of influence and I'm very doubtful that anybody would consider going against her decision. I am willing to give it a try though.


I see what you mean. I would pray and ask for wisdom if you decide to go over her head.
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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/16/2008 9:51:17 PM   
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Sounds like she doesn't want to transfer you to the second shift because it would mean more work for her. If she broke company policy to re-hire you then she recognizes your work as invaluable. If you transfer to another shift then the work...you closing every day...would land back on her until she finds a replacement who would do the same level of work. In other words...I think her inability to work with you on the transfer is self serving. I'll keep you in my prayers.


Lynn, you are almost exactly right about her motives. The work wouldn't fall on her personally because she is non-clinical. However, she would be paying the other lab staff overtime in my absence and there would be a lack of revenue out of the lab as well. We are a moderate complexity lab and the meat of the revenue the lab generates is from the tests that only a degreed, state licensed tech (me) can perform. Her sudden interest in keeping company policy now that it's egocentrically convenient to do so is mostly about money. I think it might also be a bit of laziness. With the economy like it is, how hard could it be to find a replacement for me?

Thanks for your prayers. I truly believe that God gave me the desire to be with my little girl, especially at this tender age and I just have to believe that He will work it out somehow.



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I'll be praying for wisdom and direction for you. We miss you. But more importantly, I know how hard this has been on you. Give GB a hug for me.


((((Frog43))))

Thank you. I miss you all too. You've been one of my "rocks" in all of this. I know you're praying for me and want the best for GB and me. Thanks for praying!



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I see what you mean. I would pray and ask for wisdom if you decide to go over her head.


Will do, Szaftoo. (nice rhyme there)

I have been and will continue to pray about this...every step of the way. I do not want to do anything out of God's will in this...even if it's not my own preference. Thanks for the good advice.

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/17/2008 6:25:09 PM   
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Praying for you Christi! I hope you and little GB will get to be with each other soon.

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/17/2008 7:27:55 PM   
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Thanks ((((Terri))))


Update:

I found somebody who is interested in taking my job. We planned on her coming to eat lunch with me tomorrow so she could see the lab and measure the commute from her house.

I emailed Joanne and told her about my friend being interested in the job and that she was coming tomorrow to eat lunch with me. Joanne sent me a reply email in which she admitted that she lied to me about being willing to let me transfer if my position is filled first. I don't think I've ever been so mad. She asked me point blank, in person a month ago if I had any friends who might want to be interviewed for my position and now she admits that she didn't mean it. Oh...my...word!

She also said in her email that we need to plan to meet to talk about this again since she needs somebody in the lab who is willing to work these hours. Excuse me...she wants me to be accommodating and sensitive to her needs?????????????

So, whenever this meeting takes place I feel confident that I will not be walking out of her office with my job. She's a liar and I intend to call her on it...face to face this time. I cleared my desk today because it's just a matter of time.

I ask that anybody reading this prays for me and this situation.

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/17/2008 7:55:59 PM   
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I will continue to pray for you Christi. I am so sorry that you must deal with yet another job related situation. I will pray that God gives you an extra portion of His love, peace and wisdom in the coming days.

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/17/2008 8:41:49 PM   
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Praying for you Christi!

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/17/2008 8:56:45 PM   
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Thanks, Judy and Lynn!

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/17/2008 10:02:26 PM   
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Now that you have her admitting in writing that she lied, could you now go over her head?

I think you have such great credentials, even if you have to quit this job, you should be able to get another position.

We may never know God's reasoning for placing you here. Perhaps it is to witness to your boss. Please when you call her a liar, do it in Christian love. (J/K)

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/18/2008 7:16:27 AM   
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quote:

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Now that you have her admitting in writing that she lied, could you now go over her head?

I think you have such great credentials, even if you have to quit this job, you should be able to get another position.

We may never know God's reasoning for placing you here. Perhaps it is to witness to your boss. Please when you call her a liar, do it in Christian love. (J/K)

This is exactly what I was thinking. KEEP THAT EMAIL! (But also at the same time try to keep your blood pressure down!)

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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/18/2008 2:19:00 PM   
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Thanks ((((Terri))))


Update:

I found somebody who is interested in taking my job. We planned on her coming to eat lunch with me tomorrow so she could see the lab and measure the commute from her house.

I emailed Joanne and told her about my friend being interested in the job and that she was coming tomorrow to eat lunch with me. Joanne sent me a reply email in which she admitted that she lied to me about being willing to let me transfer if my position is filled first. I don't think I've ever been so mad. She asked me point blank, in person a month ago if I had any friends who might want to be interviewed for my position and now she admits that she didn't mean it. Oh...my...word!

She also said in her email that we need to plan to meet to talk about this again since she needs somebody in the lab who is willing to work these hours. Excuse me...she wants me to be accommodating and sensitive to her needs?????????????

So, whenever this meeting takes place I feel confident that I will not be walking out of her office with my job. She's a liar and I intend to call her on it...face to face this time. I cleared my desk today because it's just a matter of time.

I ask that anybody reading this prays for me and this situation.

Hi Christi. You are in my prayers on this. I can't imagine the situation you're in, but I know that God will be with you in that meeting.

Be sure to plan out how you are going to articulate this to her ahead of time. It is important to be calm and professional, but it is also important to explain why you are doing this. (It's also good to use statements that start with "I " so there is less debate and less feeling that she is being attacked) You want to be able to walk out of there with the opportunity to work for this lady (if she ever changes) or your/her coworkers in the future.
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RE: Boss refusing my transfer...do I have any other opt... - 11/28/2008 10:28:32 PM   
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Forgive me if I seem like I don't sympathize with your desire to be home before 6, but I don't understand a few things.

You have to work later than you want to. But do you get to go to work later in the day, too, or are you working really long days? If you're not going into work until mid-morning, you may be getting the same amount of time with your daughter as you will if you get home earlier.

Your boss won't let you transfer to an earlier shift because the lab will make less money. I understand why you don't want to work late in the evenings, but that seems like a really good reason for her insisting that you work the closing shift. If there is a way for the lab to not lose money on the transfer, explain that to your boss. Perhaps you can do the more demanding tests during the other shift. If not, it seems completely reasonable to me that she would deny the transfer request.

If the tests you do make more money for the lab, I assume you get paid more than other lab techs. They can't pay you the higher rate if you can't do the more profitable tests because you work the other shift. If that's the case, maybe you can accept a pay cut, being paid at a rate like the lower-qualified techs who do testing during the second shift.

Finally, I'm a bit perplexed as to why your boss' decision has been described as "self-serving" because it would put more work on her. In one way, it's true to call her actions self-serving if they benefit her. But it's also reasonable for a boss to want an employee who will do the employee's job, so the boss can do hers. It's self-serving in a way, but it's also good management. I can't do both my job and my employees' jobs, no matter why they want off early. If they can't work their hours or perform their tasks, I can't always just transfer them to another schedule or work group.

So, my suggestion is to try to see this from your boss' perspective. If the arrangement doesn't work for you, you might be able to take a pay cut or work something out if you want to keep working there, but you've got to try and find a way to address all her concerns and needs too. If you don't want to address her needs as an employer, then you do need to find a new job. There's nothing wrong with seeking other employment if this arrangement doesn't work for you, but I just don't see your boss being wrong for expecting you to meet their needs, too.
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