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The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008?
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The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/18/2008 9:25:17 PM
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todd_t
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I'll go with St Louis.
Yes, they are not winless like Detroit, but I'm giving the Lions credit as a (slightly) better team because they have been more competitive with most of their opponents. Plus, the Lions have the privilege of trying to dig out from years of bad decisions from former GM Matt Millen, who stayed on in the job way, way too long.
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/19/2008 10:44:04 AM
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I'll go with St Louis.
Yes, they are not winless like Detroit, but I'm giving the Lions credit as a (slightly) better team because they have been more competitive with most of their opponents. Plus, the Lions have the privilege of trying to dig out from years of bad decisions from former GM Matt Millen, who stayed on in the job way, way too long.
the Lion's problems go well beyond Millen....one only has to look at the owner, William Clay Ford.
For an example of how a team can go from perpetual "somewhat mediocre" to contender by changing it's owner, just look at the Dallas Mavericks basketball team. Or, the Indianapolis Colts, with it's fairly new owner, Jim Irsay.
Until the Lions get a new owner, I see nothing much happening....(just as nothing much has happened with the team my entire life....literally!)
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/19/2008 1:51:42 PM
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I have to pick the Lions because the Rams actually won against two decent teams the Redskins and Cowboys. The Lions OTOH only had a close game against the Bears and the Vikings not even on par with a Romo-less Cowboy team!
But they both know how to stink up a stadium!
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/23/2008 6:23:59 PM
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todd_t
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They looked pretty weak against the Bears today (who are pretty lousy in their own right); the Lions also lost at home to Tampa after leading 17-0 at one point.
I think the Lions have an excellent chance to go winless this season.
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the Lion's problems go well beyond Millen....one only has to look at the owner, William Clay Ford.
Agreed.
The Bears ownership (the McCaskey's) is pretty bad also; although I grew up a Bears fan in the 1970s, and still think Walter Payton is the greatest all-around player in NFL history, three years ago I swore off the Bears until they are sold.
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/23/2008 8:31:32 PM
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colliefan
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I think the Lions have an excellent chance to go winless this season.
The Bucs record of fulitity will never be broken: 0-26 over two years
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/24/2008 8:09:57 AM
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kernsfamily
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The Bears ownership (the McCaskey's) is pretty bad also; although I grew up a Bears fan in the 1970s, and still think Walter Payton is the greatest all-around player in NFL history, three years ago I swore off the Bears until they are sold.
at least the bears have had some great seasons from time to time....and, have been in, and/or won, a Super Bowl here and there...
The Lions? They might make it into the playoffs once a decade...and, even then, lose in the first game.
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/24/2008 1:38:47 PM
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The Bears ownership (the McCaskey's) is pretty bad also; although I grew up a Bears fan in the 1970s, and still think Walter Payton is the greatest all-around player in NFL history, three years ago I swore off the Bears until they are sold.
at least the bears have had some great seasons from time to time....and, have been in, and/or won, a Super Bowl here and there...
The Lions? They might make it into the playoffs once a decade...and, even then, lose in the first game.
Is this another business in Detroit that needs a government bailout? 
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/24/2008 2:32:18 PM
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kernsfamily
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The Bears ownership (the McCaskey's) is pretty bad also; although I grew up a Bears fan in the 1970s, and still think Walter Payton is the greatest all-around player in NFL history, three years ago I swore off the Bears until they are sold.
at least the bears have had some great seasons from time to time....and, have been in, and/or won, a Super Bowl here and there...
The Lions? They might make it into the playoffs once a decade...and, even then, lose in the first game.
Is this another business in Detroit that needs a government bailout?
no...financially, the Lions are doing just fine.
But, thanks for the offer!
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/24/2008 3:00:41 PM
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I voted Other for the Chargers.
Any team wasting that much talent, has to be considered the worst.
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/26/2008 10:09:52 AM
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mapachito13
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I voted Other for the Chargers.
Any team wasting that much talent, has to be considered the worst.
I count the Packers and Eagles in that list of underachievers as well.
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/26/2008 11:29:06 AM
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TorchHeart
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I voted Other for the Chargers.
Any team wasting that much talent, has to be considered the worst.
I count the Packers and Eagles in that list of underachievers as well.
Throw the Vikings in the under achievers lists, as well. LOTS of talent on both sides of the ball, but bad coaching and no one at quarterback who's worth a squat will kill you. Especially embarrassing when the early predictions have you taking your division by a landslide.
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/26/2008 11:31:30 AM
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TorchHeart
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I voted Other for the Chargers.
I have to agree with NoShow. A team with that much offensive talent should be blowing teams out of the water early on.
Does anyone else wonder if the management staff for the Chargers is suddenly kicking themselves for letting Marty Schottenheimer (sp?) go, and replacing him with a second-rate hack like Norv Turner?
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/26/2008 12:38:03 PM
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NoShow
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The Charger defense is obviously not to be counted on. Turner needs to open up the play book. The Chargers need to have 42 points by the half, so they can win by 3-7 points in the end.
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 11/26/2008 1:54:07 PM
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TorchHeart
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i agree. the defense is second-rate, but I still say that Turner was the wrong man for the job on that team.
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 12/1/2008 11:10:40 AM
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mapachito13
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i agree. the defense is second-rate, but I still say that Turner was the wrong man for the job on that team.
I agree with you there at least Marty got them to the playoffs. He just didn't seem to be able to crank his teams' intensity up a little more in the playoffs hence his plethora of wins but lack of rings.
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 12/1/2008 11:22:25 AM
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Speaking of Marty, there were rumors on the Bottom Line ticker on ESPN, yesterday, that both he and Cowher could be interested in coaching the Cleveland Browns next season. Considering of course that Romeo Crenell gets fired...... *cough**cough*surething*cough*couch*
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 12/1/2008 11:25:58 AM
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mapachito13
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Speaking of Marty, there were rumors on the Bottom Line ticker on ESPN, yesterday, that both he and Cowher could be interested in coaching the Cleveland Browns next season. Considering of course that Romeo Crenell gets fired...... *cough**cough*surething*cough*couch*
Bill Cowher would need a lot of leverage $$$$$$$ to get him there because he has stated that he's not interested in coaching again many times. Of course, that's what he says in public. 
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 12/1/2008 11:34:35 AM
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TorchHeart
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Bill Cowher would need a lot of leverage $$$$$$$ to get him there because he has stated that he's not interested in coaching again many times. Of course, that's what he says in public.
Exactly. And we all know how that works.
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 12/2/2008 3:36:10 PM
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The Raiders had Norv Turner as coach, and he had a 9-23 record, even with Randy Moss. He was the offensive coach in SF. He was just brilliant in Washington, drafting Heath Shuler (now a member of Congress)....
Those Lions are the worst team, IMO...
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I voted Other for the Chargers.
I have to agree with NoShow. A team with that much offensive talent should be blowing teams out of the water early on.
Does anyone else wonder if the management staff for the Chargers is suddenly kicking themselves for letting Marty Schottenheimer (sp?) go, and replacing him with a second-rate hack like Norv Turner?
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 12/3/2008 11:22:50 AM
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mapachito13
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(Norv Turner) was just brilliant in Washington, drafting Heath Shuler (now a member of Congress)....
Please tell me that you're being sarcastic with this comment. 
He's got to be with these stats!
Maybe he's a better Congressman, if there is such a thing!
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RE: The Very Worst NFL Team of 2008? - 12/3/2008 2:08:37 PM
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mapachito13
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Of course, I was dripping with sarcasm! I did say he was the offensive coach...
Remember, both teams in California had to endure Norv-itis for a few years.
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Maybe he's a better Congressman, if there is such a thing!
That may not be saying much... 
I guess the talent pool is so small for NFL coaches that the owners hire guys just on the fact that they have head coaching experience (or can fog a mirror). Who cares if that coaching experience resulted in a losing record.
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