RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new just a few date and phone convos)
View related threads:
(in this forum
| in all forums)
|
Logged in as: Guest
|
|
Users viewing this topic:
none
|
|
Login  | |
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 7/29/2010 2:15:55 AM
|
|
|
Corne
Posts: 1934
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: sweetandhappy
when i say he can shovel snow, cut grass and bag it, fix cars (all within limits and with pacing) then to me that means you can work to some degree and can capitalize on it, if not in a physical job you can using your energy to get more education and training. I think he has done physical labor for faaar too long....time to develop a new side of himself, he's a patient person and has alot of knowledge others could benefit from, he could teach mechanics, he could mentor kids, he plays drums and guitar he could teach people to play...while prayerfully God heals his body and/or provides a way for him to provide---becaus ehe is not totally disabled and certainly not disabled in mind, spirit or intention.
You shouldnot even have a date with this man. He already fails to live up to your expectations. It would be wrong to let him develop a stronger attatchment you.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 7/29/2010 12:47:37 PM
|
|
|
jaimestarcross
Posts: 1233
Joined: 11/28/2005
Status: online
|
quote:
this whole thing is really up to me. this would require a change in my attitude and perspective on balancing the value of what he brings to the relationship (a whole lot of good character based things things that don't grow on trees out here in the world)..... i feel you should always look at a situation and say - if nothing ever changes would you want to be with this person, and would you be content? Big question.
*Remember this though-- things do change.
Life happens and we don't know how we will react to a certain situation until we
are in it.
It's not your job to change him... so give the matter over to the Lord and be in prayer
about having a future with or without this man.
(Peter the apostle was also married and he went about with the Lord-- ever wonder how his
wife fared?)
As a wife you would be your husband's help-mate/help-meet... think about that and how you would fill
that role.
< Message edited by jaimestarcross -- 7/29/2010 12:57:28 PM >
_____________________________
shoutlife.com/UBfine
"A world of nice people, content in their own niceness, looking no further, turned away from God, would be just as desperately in need of salvation as a miserable world---and might be even more difficult to save."
C.S. Lewis
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/1/2010 12:15:58 AM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
No problem horizons....you asked it just right :-)
No I don't feel he is the only one. I do think his Christian qualities are not frequently found these days..but I guess more than that, I have met and dated men who have great qualities and treat me wonderfully (I wouldn't date anyone who was less or did less) but alot of times the Christian part is weak or turns out to be a "differentt version of Christianity" than the plain old Trinity, One way to God, Heaven and Hell God I serve. I think it's more frustration with it always being "something dramactically juxtiposed to me/who I am/what I believe/lifestyle/intelligence in someway that makes it difficult to compromise or balance out (I try :-) ). I do think my patience is wearing thin. I have been focusing on the fact that bottom line the MOST important thing to me is that the man LOVE GOD and want to please Him with how he lives his life (and has a mature consitent worship/bible life and RELATIONSHIP with Him)--I figure if he wants that, (and I have the basic compatability needs met) God will work out the rest..I realize that that isn't all there is to it , but I think you may know what I mean.
He has a vague "I want to start a business/work for myself "concept going but that's about it, no business plan. As far as his feeling on school (   his quotes "school isn't for everyone...I don't know...I guess you want someone with a degree...school just isn't my thing...I just said right now I don't want to school...maybe next year sometime I will (whatever that means)...
As far as how he feels about himself..he is quite fine with himself...he is fine with how his life is right now...he has vaguely sketched ides "working more for the poor, helping people" (he does currently do alot to help others works on their cars , helps elderly, church stuff, goes to see about his mother in nursing home 2 - 3 times per week ) He has raised his 2 daughters for the last 3 years as the full custodial parent...his ex wife of 20 something years left him (him having the kids leads me to believe his story) he had to learn to cook, he is a total neat freak, always cleaning cooking, tending to lawn, cleaning car (I swear he washes his car everyday LOL) he is always busy doing something. He takes care of his 8 year old daughter (the older one just left for college 1 month ago) he dotes on her like she is a little princess (i'ts quite sweet--he is a great dad)...He goes to bible study about 3 times a week, church on sundays.
Just difficult for me to reconcile the not working/going to school/training/thing.
UPDATE: I had a frank talk with him about my issues with things...he kinda left it like I guess you want something different than me...I think I am a good man, all I want to do is make you happy and be a family and enjoy our lives in God together, make sure the house and cars are taken care of, I can pay the mortgage...when I rent out my house (he would plan to move to my town) that's 300 more dollars I can bring a month...etc....I 'll leave the decision up to you, I guess it's up to you what you want to do...I wish I had the degree you want me to have..but I just don't want to go to school now" ...He also tried to say things in a way that implied I just wanted this surface stuff (school/degree job) because of expections "ego" etc..then he took it back :-) (typical guy stuff I feel defensive because I want her and she is telling me I can't have what I want) he also conceded that alot of what I said made sense...I told him I just don't understand some of his thinking, decisions, L/O foresight, that it didn't make sense to me and that I'd pray about it....
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/1/2010 12:24:14 AM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
THANK YOU everyone for your responses, I really appreciate them. I think I am clearly working out other issues in my life through this process with getting to know this man. (Ya think??? LOL)
in time more shall be revealed...and I will stay prayerful and kep my eyes open RE: him and others God may have for me to encounter ;-)
I'm keeping my options open (as usual :( ...I'll be glad when I can stop doing that !! LOL)..
Still love to hear you thoughts as they may come...
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/1/2010 12:34:42 AM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
Thanks for this I agree with you, wait, watch and pray indeed
quote:
ORIGINAL: quietone7
Hello, sweetandhappy.
I hope you do not mind a couple of clarifying questions. How long have you known this man? You mentioned that he has some seemingly Godly qualities. Do you know if he is a Christian? (There is a difference between seemingly being Godly and actually being so.) Do you know the reason for his divorce?
My point more than anything else is to be cautious, and to approach this with much prayer. It rather bothers me to see a lack of a willingness to work in order to provide for himself and a family. I will say that I am an unmarried young man, and I would rather not get married and start a family until I had some solid way of supporting myself and them. More than anything else, pray, and be cautious.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/1/2010 12:35:58 AM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
love this C2G!
quote:
ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God
I'd be very cautious about this relationship. Man was designed to work, and the lack of ambition is not a good sign in my opinion. I know someone who sounds a lot like you the person you are describing, and although he's a good friend, I would not want to be married to him. He spends his days riding his motorcycle, sleeping, and practicing his guitar. He gets full disability and I don't have a problem with that, but there are a ton of issues in his marriage and his family. On the other hand, my husband probably could have gotten on disability if he'd tried, but he's not that kind of a person. He's an overcomer who is going to work hard despite what he's been told he can't do, and I'm very proud of him.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/1/2010 12:40:35 AM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
FYI: he speaks often of not taking any medication--he just rests instead-says he doesnt like meds and doesn;t want to become hooked...
quote:
ORIGINAL: jaimestarcross
My mistake... I have corrected the word to intellectual.
I still think she's being unfair... and Look at it like this...
If the situation was reversed and it was a woman on disability with an 8 yr. old child at
home and a Christian man was wanting to marry her -- people would be saying ``Oh how fortunate she
is to find such a caring Christian man who wants to marry her.``
We also don't know what type of medications he may be taking... some of those meds people take
for extreme pain also will keep them from operating machinery etc...
I had to drive my husband around for awhile due to the meds he was on since his amputation and the phantom pain he was having in the beginning was intense.
Also his disability is reviewed from time to time... he will undergo medical exams etc... he did spend the time trying to get disability and he did qualify and receives benefits. I don't think it's kind to say he is doing something illegal just because someone (who isn't a medical doctor) thinks he's not doing his all. She can not determine his fitness to receive those disability checks.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/1/2010 12:55:53 AM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
Hi Jaime
Oh yes I am plenty flawed, I realize everyone has less than desirable traits and situations...as I do, just trying to figure out which ones I can live with and who can live with mine... that's all.
I would love to be my husbands help mate, but in this situation he would be doing much of what I would like to do (homemaking, child rearing the "mr. Mom" role LOL)...I would love for the tradional roles to be in place and liv ein them to some degree. Now as to helpmate in sickness and health...I just imaginged that being an issue after investing years into a relationship or marriage--not right at the onset of dating (although my brother dated a girl for years with debilitating illness (Lupus) and many complications (including chemo, hip replacements, small heartattack, losing hair, mood swings..and THEN married her...they are now married 7 years, she is pretty healthy, and I have a fantastic niece! My brother is a great guy---note: my sister in law is a WORKER she went to undergrad, grad school AND worked throughout a chronic debilitating illness and constant pain, she is now a WORKING MOM, My brother works too and is now in Law School, many people I know with challenges worked through them literally).So I have examples all around me of the good and bad ways this kinda thing can produce.
quote:
ORIGINAL: jaimestarcross
quote:
this whole thing is really up to me. this would require a change in my attitude and perspective on balancing the value of what he brings to the relationship (a whole lot of good character based things things that don't grow on trees out here in the world)..... i feel you should always look at a situation and say - if nothing ever changes would you want to be with this person, and would you be content? Big question.
*Remember this though-- things do change.
Life happens and we don't know how we will react to a certain situation until we
are in it.
It's not your job to change him... so give the matter over to the Lord and be in prayer
about having a future with or without this man.
(Peter the apostle was also married and he went about with the Lord-- ever wonder how his
wife fared?)
As a wife you would be your husband's help-mate/help-meet... think about that and how you would fill
that role.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/1/2010 2:31:30 PM
|
|
|
Corne
Posts: 1934
Status: offline
|
A note about a person's interest in school. Some intelligent people have learning disabilities and have great trouble with the learning process and often feel a sense of frustration, failure and embarrassment when trying to learn in a traditional school type setting. A person's learning differences may or may not have been identified in their lives, but it is important to realize that good, smart people sometimes have great barriers in learning endeavors.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/1/2010 6:28:50 PM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
Thanks Corne...I've thought of that...(in alot of instances actually with potential mates in my dating life)..so I am aware that's important to keep that in mind when looking at a person. This situation seems mainly about the intentions and work ethic behind the choiuces--or lack thereof :-)
quote:
ORIGINAL: Corne
A note about a person's interest in school. Some intelligent people have learning disabilities and have great trouble with the learning process and often feel a sense of frustration, failure and embarrassment when trying to learn in a traditional school type setting. A person's learning differences may or may not have been identified in their lives, but it is important to realize that good, smart people sometimes have great barriers in learning endeavors.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/1/2010 6:46:29 PM
|
|
|
Corne
Posts: 1934
Status: offline
|
But you say many things that show he has a good work ethic, as in he cleans like crazy and helps others etc. Most people I have seen with less than ideal motivation for earning money...don't do all of those other "working" things, especially to that extent.
He has now told you he sees that you want someone different from who he is. For his sake be careful about leading his heart forward.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/3/2010 11:36:31 PM
|
|
|
Sadey
Posts: 16
Joined: 7/25/2007
Status: offline
|
It seems that there is a whole lot judging going on, directed towards a man who has not said a word on this thread. He has been wrapped up in a nice neat package by people who don't know him.
He deserves someone who will love him the way he is and not how she wants him to be.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/4/2010 12:55:19 AM
|
|
|
deermousie
Posts: 2742
Joined: 9/26/2007
Status: offline
|
I think it's fabulous that he isn't in debt! Hurray for him!
Now he's raising two children on between $2200 and $2700 a month, so it's pretty much spent. Can he afford another mouth to feed (yours) on top that, or would you have to work to be able to afford being married to him? If that is so, and you got pregnant, would your finances be in trouble? Where would you have to cut corners to not starve five people (him, his two kids, you and your baby). Does he have insurance that would cover a hospital delivery?
_____________________________
People died to give you the Bible in your language.
Read it. Eat it. Dwell in it. Rightly divide it. Live it.
Laugh, dance, praise your God, and go read some more. And God bless you.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/5/2010 7:47:23 PM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
Now he's raising two children on between $2200 and $2700 a month, so it's pretty much spent.
That's what I said Deer. Oh yes, darlin', I would HAVE to work..I mean I am going to work anyway, but the point is, I would definitely be supporting myself and him above and beyond his check, including any kids I have. I thought about your comment about pregnancy too...what if something happened to me? I could not quit, I could not be w/o a job with benefits EVER...There is no safety net from his end..but I actually bring alot of financial benefit/career opportunity and advancement (of course the ultimate source is God and He is the One who provided the benefits I have received in life) options to his situation. He insists that mystically magically we can "put our money together and make it work."
Actually he told me when his 18 year old turned 18 his "check "was reduced by 500 (2,700 to 2,200), and she gets that 500 now...so that money was in my mind, was really alotted for his kid...which suggests they may have alotted 500 for his youngest who is 8 years old...which i guess would be gone when she is 18 (or who knows his ex-wife could somehow get custudy and that 500 goes earlier)
Like I said...it's one thing if we were already in love or married and this happened..I would not have these hesitations..it would just be how my life happened to unfold...but this is different. Alot of this is about intention, perspective, work ethic... ability, options...wisdom...etc.
What makes me nervous is there is no place to go with this situation to provide options or alternatives for livelihood (well other than me)...he doesn't want to go to school, he has the vague side hustle oil changing business idea which he has put no effort into actualizing for at least 3 years. When I asked him "well have you taken any buisness classes, talked to anyone who runs a like business, went to the library to learn how to do what it is you invision? nope. His response was "I just need to get some business cards"...even if that is all you had to do to run a business...he hasn't even done that...in three years? Really? Doesn't seem serious to me...or even using critical thinking skills to learn how to build a business . He could do it--he just doesn't seem to "get" the fact that it takes more than a card to run and maintain a business-even a side hustle..that kind of thinking frightens me.
He seems to pick and chose what concerns him about his injury. Sitting in an office with accomodations for his back is too risky for him--he is concerned about his back being injured in that scenario..yet he is not concerned about riding his motorcycle, driving a semi locally, changing oil hurting his back. I think it is because that is the kind of work he "wants" to do and it's the kind of work you can do under the table. "I don't want to work for someone else" but you haven't done anything to work for yourself. i don't know what to make of that but the obvious..
He is a nice guy, very sweet and attentive...I am sure he doesn't mean anyone any harm. Just not the guy for me...I don't understand his thinking consdiering the situation (2 kids and at least 30 more years of living to do).
I think he is tired of working--and that's fine, it's legitimate if he wants to say "I worked 20 years of back breaking work, I always earned my keep, I am just tired now, I got injured, and I don't want to work anymore, I am just done".
I think it's clear he wants to be a House Husband and Mr. Mom. Nothing wrong with that-just doesnt fit for me. If I was a man and I met a woman that wanted me to stay home and take care of the kids while she works...that would be weird to me as a guy--even though it is perfectly modern and a legitimate choice (yes I know it isn't the same thing). This reversed roles thing is tuff for me considering we have no history, I don't have the benefit of years of experience watchiing him working with my own eyes for several years - I only have what he is telling me....I can't say well he's worked and sacrificed for me for 5 years , now it's my turn...none of the kind of stuff that helps you to balanced what may look on the surface like a potential problem..I just have the questions...
Where would you have to cut corners to not starve five people (him, his two kids, you and your baby).
I know-exactly- deermousie!
Does he have insurance that would cover a hospital delivery?
WOW I didn't even think of that!
Well I told him this scenario was not one that I expected. I expressed my concerns and why I had them...he doesn't see any reason for concern whatsoever--he is "bringing something to the table, so what's the problem?" and everything else will work itself out (to me that seems to suggest I will "work" everything else out :-) ) . I told him I'd have to really pray about if this is the direction God would want me to go...I will have the final talk with him next week. Save a message from the Lord to the contrary...It's looking like a no-go.
quote:
ORIGINAL: deermousie
I think it's fabulous that he isn't in debt! Hurray for him!
Can he afford another mouth to feed (yours) on top that, or would you have to work to be able to afford being married to him? If that is so, and you got pregnant, would your finances be in trouble?
< Message edited by sweetandhappy -- 8/5/2010 8:24:45 PM >
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/5/2010 8:10:36 PM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
i hear you jaimestar and i am with you...(i have no desire to do the futile work of trying to change someone else...hence my reason for posting this message about putting the onus on myself to change if i want to go forward in this relationship...and the reason it is so disapointing...)however, what are your thoughts on how he would fullfill his biblical role to me?
quote:
ORIGINAL: jaimestarcross
quote:
this whole thing is really up to me. this would require a change in my attitude and perspective on balancing the value of what he brings to the relationship (a whole lot of good character based things things that don't grow on trees out here in the world)..... i feel you should always look at a situation and say - if nothing ever changes would you want to be with this person, and would you be content? Big question.
*Remember this though-- things do change.
Life happens and we don't know how we will react to a certain situation until we
are in it.
It's not your job to change him... so give the matter over to the Lord and be in prayer
about having a future with or without this man.
(Peter the apostle was also married and he went about with the Lord-- ever wonder how his
wife fared?)
As a wife you would be your husband's help-mate/help-meet... think about that and how you would fill
that role.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/5/2010 8:27:56 PM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
wow. i don't think I am judging him. I think I am looking at the situation soberly (good stuff and concerns) and wondering aloud about what is informing his thoughts, decisions and attitudes and talking honestly with him and others about those thoughts and questions. i never said any of his choices are universally bad..they are just choices that may or may not work for me.
quote:
ORIGINAL: Sadey
It seems that there is a whole lot judging going on, directed towards a man who has not said a word on this thread. He has been wrapped up in a nice neat package by people who don't know him.
He deserves someone who will love him the way he is and not how she wants him to be.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/5/2010 8:31:14 PM
|
|
|
Elena1030
Posts: 3141
Joined: 6/21/2006
From: Music City, USA
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: sweetandhappy
I told him I'd have to really pray about if this is the direction God would want me to go...I will have the final talk with him next week. Save a message from the Lord to the contrary...It's looking like a no-go.
I think you've probably been praying about this all along, and I cannot imagine God telling you that this man is His will for you... if you are not already feeling a change in your thinking about how you prefer to live your married/family life.
I think you have your answer. ---> he is not a match for you.
If I were in your shoes, I'd make the cut sharp, clean, and fast... not drag it out.
< Message edited by Elena1030 -- 8/5/2010 8:49:03 PM >
_____________________________
"I like to stride, not mince." -- Maggie
Prayer thread for singles who desire to marry someday
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/5/2010 8:43:00 PM
|
|
|
laura...
Posts: 3363
Joined: 3/1/2005
From: NE Ohio
Status: offline
|
quote:
He seems to pick and chose what concerns him about his injury. Sitting in an office with accomodations for his back is too risky for him--he is concerned about his back being injured in that scenario..yet he is not concerned about riding his motorcycle, driving a semi locally, changing oil hurting his back. I think it is because that is the kind of work he "wants" to do and it's the kind of work you can do under the table. "I don't want to work for someone else" but you haven't done anything to work for yourself. i don't know what to make of that but the obvious..
I still say he's a disability fraud waiting to get caught. I've known far too many people far more disabled than this who could not get disability. And should the watchdogs suddenly decide to check up on his level of disability and find that he is not truly disabled, he and whoever is married to him will be liable to pay it all back.
_____________________________
Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith... ...so that you will not grow weary and lose heart. Hebrew 12:3-4
Follow me on Twitter: MrsLalaD
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/5/2010 9:42:55 PM
|
|
|
Sadey
Posts: 16
Joined: 7/25/2007
Status: offline
|
SweetandHappy,
You are not judging as much as you are trying to decide whether this relationship is something you want to pursue
Its the other posters who have said some strong things against this man.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/6/2010 1:18:05 AM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
thanks for clarifying sadey :-)
quote:
ORIGINAL: Sadey
SweetandHappy,
You are not judging as much as you are trying to decide whether this relationship is something you want to pursue
Its the other posters who have said some strong things against this man.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/6/2010 4:50:50 AM
|
|
|
deermousie
Posts: 2742
Joined: 9/26/2007
Status: offline
|
Looks to me like things are pretty clear in your mind and you've got your head on straight. God bless you, dear Sister. (((HUgs)))
_____________________________
People died to give you the Bible in your language.
Read it. Eat it. Dwell in it. Rightly divide it. Live it.
Laugh, dance, praise your God, and go read some more. And God bless you.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/6/2010 8:09:43 PM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
Thanks deermousie...after I told him I didn't want to talk for a while (he usually called 1 to 2 times a day...I felt more and more distant, with little to no desire to connect. Something just wasn't right there in general...and definitely not right for me.
quote:
ORIGINAL: deermousie
Looks to me like things are pretty clear in your mind and you've got your head on straight. God bless you, dear Sister. (((HUgs)))
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/6/2010 11:13:42 PM
|
|
|
freetobehis
Posts: 57
Joined: 7/29/2010
Status: offline
|
I am not sure that marrying someone because he is a "good Christian man" is a good enough reason. I don't believe that it would be fair to him, his kids or yourself. Do you love him? Does he love you? Are you crazy about his family including his children? Do you feel the Lords leading in this relationship?
There are just so many things to consider in this. One thing is for certrain, if you question his ambition now, it will only intensify, especially if you struggle financially. Don't do that to him or yourself. Work through it with him first. Be open with him about how you feel. If you don't the possibility exists that you will end up bitter and he will end up feeling like a failure.
Marraige is too hard to go into just for the sake of being married. Pray it through and then if you decide that you can't live your life without him, commit to him for better or for worse.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Seems like he Loves God on disability (very new jus... - 8/9/2010 1:54:15 AM
|
|
|
sweetandhappy
Posts: 54
Joined: 7/6/2010
Status: offline
|
Had the talk. He doesn't get what the problem is, but accepted that's the way I feel. I know he will find a woman who is hapy to be with him just as he is, just the way things are. I know God will keep and bless him :-).
|
|
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
 Locked w/ New Messages |
 Locked w/o New Messages |
|
 Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts |
|
|
Forum Tools
Printable Version
I would be concerned about how ethical it is for him to draw on "disability", and whether he recieved it in an ethical manner in the first place. 
